Saturday, September 10, 2011

1 Cor. 6 - on effeminacy

Paul, being intolerant again...

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Cor. 6)

The Greek word for "effeminate" there can be translated "soft" or "fine".

I really was shocked (in a thrilled "why haven't I seen this before!" way) to realize that "effeminate" is in this list.

Has anyone else noticed the fad of girly, soft young men lately? I'm getting tired of it. I even see it among homeschoolers. A gentle, quiet softness that isn't just manly meekness- it's girly. And it's disgusting. And it's unBiblical, most importantly.

And it's so fashionable, it seems, today.

I'm not advocating boorish, vulgar manhood- just manly manhood.

Any other men out there who agree? Who desire to have a bit of thunder in their step, lion in their voice, iron in their grip, determination in their stride, fiery vision in their eyes?

Of course, this strength must be tempered by meekness. Strength under control for The Glory of God.

But I can be meek and still be very firmly a man.

May it be so. By God's Grace, for His Glory.


(See part 2 for more on this topic)


Miles Dame said...

What translation is that?

Good thoughts though... I mean I think I know what you're saying.

Gabriel Hudelson said...

Miles, thanks for the comment! It's NAS. Feel free to ask any questions you may have!

David R. said...

Oh yes, the Manly Man. The one who's handshake is like a vise, not a limp piece of spaghetti in boiling water. The Man with Bible in his rough hands and a gun on his hip and stains on his jeans and a weather-beaten hat on his sweaty head. The Man who is willing to do what is right no matter how much it hurts himself or offends others. The man who tips his hat to ladies and opens the door for them, who carries the heavy burdens when they can't. Oh yes, the REAL man. Move over wimps, REAL men are on the way. :)

Gabriel Hudelson said...

That's my kinda comment, there, David. :-D

Racheal said...

Amen, Brothers!
I'm no guy, but being a girl who wants a REAL MAN, I heartly appricate manly young men!

David R. said...

Well, the world has just as much a need for real Godly Ladies as much as Men, and we appreciate them just as much! Its easier for a Man to be a Man and not a macho show-off if a Lady is a Lady and not a tom-boy or a flirt.
By His Grace, For His Glory.

Jennifer said...

That's right, we need real men. And I've seen SUCH an imbalance of this lately in the dating market: men are being told not to just be "nice" anymore (this is true, it fits this post). But in turn, some guys are also telling men to be arrogant jerks because women like that; they say THAT is real manhood. But it's just another fake. And some women do flock to it, sometimes I think because they crave real men so badly and don't know what it looks like.

Are you sure this is a proper translation? I mean, WOMEN are effeminate; are we barred from heaven?

Gabriel Hudelson said...

Jennifer, I don't believe effeminacy would be an issue when appearing in women. :-)

Jordanna said...

Yes, the world is in desperate need of strong, serious, Godly men and women! I am so thankful for my peers who are becoming those men and women.

@ David:
It may be easier for a man to BE a man when a lady is a lady, but the converse is true as well. It is such a load lifted (note your comment "carries the heavy burdens when they can't") when a man steps up and speaks like he's speaking to a lady. It's a relief to know where we stand and what's expected of us.

David R. said...

Yes, well, I guess the appreciation is mutual. I guess that would qualify as "exhort one-another daily.." Hebrews 3:13.
Sola Deo Gloria

Corey P. said...

Excellent post.

As guy, I cringe when I look around the local Walmart and see what passes for manhood in this post-modern culture. It's disgusting.

All the more reason for Christian men to step up to the plate and show the world that manly men are not an extinct breed.

BushMaid said...

*applauds* Bravo! Well said, I absolutely agree with your statement! As a daughter to a father and a sister to two brothers who are real men, I wholeheartedly commend you in your striving to be manly men of God. :D

@David: Brilliant comment! You sound like my Dad. :D

Jamie T said...

Good observations; I wanted to point out (and say thank you!) for mentioning at the end about also staying humble. I often see guys in many different places who are so trying to become manly that they start looking down on others who don't understand or believe the same concept (and vise versa, same with ladies looking down on other women; I have sinned in that area.) So, I greatly appreciated you adding that part about meekness at the end. :D


David R. said...

Oh yes, humility....Yeah.... I struggle with that one way more than I care to say. :)
Humility is a huge aspect of any Christian. It's so easy to walk around with your nose in the air looking at the modern feminized men looking more like a girl than a boy and think "I could break you over my knee with one hand!" I have to remember, that without Gods grace, I would be just depraved (well, I am already, I just repent as often as I can) or worse. We have to constantly stay humble and know that we are only where we are by Gods infinite grace, through nothing we have done, and deep down we are just as bad as them, we've just been shown the truth. When you look at it in that light, its a little harder to condemn them, in fact, you start to fell sorry for the poor chaps. You start to wonder "how hurt deep down can you get to get you go to the extreme of looking and acting like that to feel loved and accepted?" I know what that hurt feels like, and it sure is hard to condemn somebody in that state, when you see it in that light. Just something to remember.

@Bush maid:
Which comment? Here's my blog if you are interested in seeing my rather hectic life.

Gabriel Hudelson said...

Convicting post there, David. Amen and amen. I pray that God would give me the compassion of Christ- the ability to see into the lost state of their souls and desire their repentance.

You really made me think with that post. Thanks!

Jamie, my use of meekness wasn't intentionally in the direction of humility as much as control of their manliness- not barbaric or bullish.

But, of course, humility is hugely important too...

Gabriel Hudelson said...

(However, in retrospect- how do we balance disdain for- disgust with- sin and compassion? What does that look like? Where does the mockery, the "you whitewashed tombs!", come in? THAT would make for interesting discussion.)

BushMaid said...

@David: Your very first comment. :D Thanks for the link!

@Gabriel: I think that's where the sharing of both grace and truth comes in.

Grace said...

Thanks for this, Gabriel. Really good observations. I love the "Grr" at the end. :D

Gabriel Hudelson said...

Glad you enjoyed it, Grace. :-D And thanks again to all who commented. I enjoy these discussions.

Dolce Esspresivo said...


You hit it right were it needed to be hit!

You, are a wonderful example of a REAL man Gabriel! :)

luv u :xx


Anonymous said...

This was an excellent post. Note that all the things Paul listed are sins that believers must deal with and lay at the feet of Jesus (swindling, drunkenness). I would encourage any brother in Christ who was struggling which being effeminate to seek Christ and Christian supporters. While it is easy to condemn and become disgusted by this state of manhood, I truly believe a firm dose of compassion and justice should be our response. We are all fallen, we all have different tendencies when it comes to sin. Just because a man can hid drinking to excess or swindling better than one can hide effeminacy, it does not mean one sin is better than another. Christians are quick to condemn with disgust anything that looks like homosexuality. Sin needs to be dealt with, but a heightened level and disgust and ostracizing of men who struggle with effeminacy, instead of confronting them with their sin in love and offering them Christ's Good News, is going to drive them further down their current road of sin.

Jennifer said...
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Jennifer said...

I'm not surprised you noticed this, esp as a friend of mine noted that many domineering men in patriocentric circles seemed very effeminate. Almost like they became what they despise the most.

Actually, this may be a warning to women too: we can't be too soft.